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Some people probably think I compile lists of recording dates for sitcoms in lieu of having anything interesting to say about them. These people are entirely correct.

Nonetheless, as I’ve just had a delightful time watching the whole run on iPlayer, let’s take a look at Series 1 of Andrew Marshall’s brilliant 2point4 children.

Episode RX TX
Leader of the Pack 21/4/91 3/9/91
Saturday Night and Sunday Morning 11/8/91 10/9/91
When the Going Gets Tough
the Tough Go Shopping
18/8/91 17/9/91
Love and Marriage 25/8/91 24/9/91
Dirty Bowling 1/9/91 1/10/91
Young at Heart 8/9/91 8/10/91

The above are the main audience record dates for the series. Location work for the pilot was done between 10th – 12th April 1991, and location for the rest of the five episodes was done between 15th – 27th July 1991.

There are a few things to note about the above. Firstly: yes, “Leader of the Pack” was a genuine pilot, shot nearly four months before the rest of the series. This pilot was shot in the main Studio A at Pebble Mill, before the show moved down to TV Centre for the rest of the programme’s run.

As I’ve discussed before with So Haunt Me, these episodes were shot closer to TX than you might have suspected. It’s not too tight with 2point4 children, but the last episode recorded of the series, “Young at Heart”, was shot the week after the pilot first transmitted. Indeed, it’s worth noting how quickly the series was commissioned and scheduled after the pilot recording; there was no messing about. It’s almost as though TV doesn’t have to sit around on people’s desks for years while people make a decision, or something.

Pilots can be intriguing things for a certain breed of TV fan. For a start, things are often just slightly different in a pilot compared to the series proper.1 There’s also the tempting knowledge that the initial edit of a pilot show often isn’t the version which ends up being broadcast. For the perfect example of this, see this post I wrote on Yes Minister, where the original pilot edit not only had different opening and closing credits compared to what ended up being broadcast, but also an entirely different film sequence in the middle.

The same must be true of 2point4 children, at least when it comes to the credits. We know that for sure. The broadcast version of “Leader of the Pack” contains the normal title sequence, which is made up of episode clips from the rest of Series 1:

The laws of time and space would indicate that the original, unbroadcast edit of the pilot, shot before the rest of the series, couldn’t have had that title sequence. So what did it have? A caption saying “INSERT TITLE SEQUENCE HERE”2, or something rather more involved?

I have no idea. I don’t have a copy of the original edit of the pilot. Maybe it still exists somewhere; maybe it’s long gone. But there is one thing we can figure out about that original pilot edit. And the reason we can figure it out is down to some dodgy record-keeping by the BBC from the time.

I have two bits of paperwork for the pilot of 2point4 children here. The first is a list of exactly what was transmitted on BBC1 on the day the first episode of the show aired; the second is more detailed information about the episode itself. And there is a rather large discrepancy between the two.3

According to the list of what was actually broadcast on the 3rd September 1991, the programme number for “Leader of the Pack” is LLC C200R/72X. However, the attached in-depth paperwork is for LLC C200R/71X. Now isn’t the place for a detailed discussion of exactly how BBC programme numbers work.4 Suffice to say that the /71 and /72 refer to different edits of the programme. /71 is an earlier edit, and /72 is a later edit.

In other words: the paperwork for the pilot of 2point4 children refers to an earlier edit of the programme than was actually broadcast. Which means, even though we don’t have a copy of the earlier edit itself, we can go scouring it for clues.

And the most obvious difference between the two versions is: Howard Goodall’s excellent opening and closing music isn’t mentioned in the /71 edit paperwork at all. Instead, there is an entirely different track listed. And intriguingly, it’s a track which is still used in the programme as broadcast; just in a different capacity.

Remember the final scene of the show, with the jazz track playing in the background?

This is a piece of library music called “Mr. Basie”5 by Ron Aspery6, released by Music House in 1988 on the album Jazz Sax. Well, this track was also originally used for the opening and closing titles of the show!

Once you view the broadcast version of the episode with this idea in mind, I think you can tell that the transition between “Mr. Basie” and Howard Goodall’s theme is slightly awkward in the revised edit. Especially given that the show is usually very, very good when it comes to endings. So there’s your explanation; the ending wasn’t originally intended to have two separate pieces of music at all.

And there you have it. The original theme music to 2point4 children, before Howard Goodall got involved, and never actually broadcast. Hang on, I think this piece might have ended up vaguely interesting after all. Dammit.


  1. I’ll leave it as an exercise for the reader to examine the Porters’ staircase in detail. 

  2. See The Day Today pilot for one of these. 

  3. Rather large to someone who works in broadcast telly, anyway. 

  4. If you want one, try this

  5. Presumably named after William “Count” Basie, and the album The Atomic Mr. Basie

  6. Formerly part of the jazz trio Back Door. For more information, see this interview with Ron. 

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8 comments

Rob Keeley on 26 April 2022 @ 4pm

I always felt it was one of those shows that was trying a bit too hard to look like an American sitcom, as with kids’ shows of the time such as Mike & Angelo and Spatz. With this theme, it would have looked even more so! It sounds a bit like the theme from Everybody Loves Raymond actually.

Now all you need to do is re-edit the titles clip above with this theme! ;)


Jonny Haw on 26 April 2022 @ 5pm

Like Rob Keeley, at the time I wrote off this show, filing it alongside The Upper Hand as a bog-standard family sitcom trying too hard to be American and I never really gave it a chance – the titles and theme tune were a big part of that perception. But having read John’s recent tweets about the series, it seems there was something a lot more interesting and subversive going on in the show. Perhaps its “mainstream” disguise was a bit too good! I must give it a rewatch.


Paul Williams on 26 April 2022 @ 6pm

It was one of those shows you watched and then sort of forgot it existed really. I remember having a bit of crush on Clare Woodgate at the time.


Joe Scaramanga on 27 April 2022 @ 6am

I’m really enjoying rewatching this at the moment with my kids.
I always liked it at the time (until I became to cool to watch pre watershed sitcoms!) but now seeing it through the eyes of a patent is so much more rewarding.

I was amazed to see Howard Goodall’s name in the credits as I never occurred to me he would work on something like this, IE something not produced by John Lloyd.


Rob Keeley on 27 April 2022 @ 8am

As a kid, I found the cheesy titles and theme music really difficult to get past, and it was one of those series that my parents would have switched off straight away! Now, I can hear it’s quite an accomplished piece of music, with some great piano work! Still not my favourite series though.


Zoomy on 28 April 2022 @ 4pm

Well, now that makes the end of the first episode make more sense! I remember watching it when it first showed (thought it was all right, but didn’t get really into it until around the second or third series) and thinking that the music they were listening to was very weird. If Bill’s basically turning on the end credit music, then that’s a funny ending!


George Kaplan on 28 April 2022 @ 8pm

Sorry, John, but this IS interesting; you really MUST try harder if you want to write something dull or entirely irrelevant to human curiousity and imagination. Tsk, tsk*! Luckily, a great deal of Twitter, almost all “reality” shows ever to be, and the *vomits* Daily Mail should give you a few pointers if you want to achieve soul-sucking borebleakness. (What?!)
I really liked the early series of Two Point Four Children and the original Georgina Cates Jenny. Belinda Lang was incredibly likeable even if the whiny what-is-THAT-supposed-to-be-then? accent she used was grating. I suppose the mysterious handsome biker – as I remember it – subplot made it a BIT like a broader Butterflies (which remains great).
I love hearing about or experiencing the differences between pilots and series. Particularly satisfying is when the original version of a pilot is preserved on DVD or for whatever newfangled beamed-straight-into-the-cerebral-cortex doohickey. The syndicated versions of the Rockford Files and Miami Vice pilots are irritating. But then I hate that the first series of Only Fools and Horses isn’t available with the original theme music (he says, incorrectly possibly) as if goofballs would be scared away by not hearing the iconic replacement. Obviously I’m demented. Bibble bibble.
Two irrelevant observations: it was always nice to see Barbara “Mother from Sorry!” Lott turn up in the show (poignant and lovely that she continued to appear after suffering a stroke), while in a Hi-De-Hi! (“Ho-Di-Ho!”; ACH, please yerselves!) connection Gary Olsen was married to Candy Davis, Ms Belfridge from the last two series of Are You Being Served? (later a bestselling novelist under the pseudonym Mo Hauser, she sadly died recently). Now, you thought YOU were being uninteresting, I’m afraid you are an amateur dear boy!


George Kaplan on 28 April 2022 @ 8pm

“Curiousity?” Ack. *Curiosity*. Better.


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