Yeah, despite this topic being boring as fuck I'm still going to make a comment like an ass. I hate how it's 'Dairy Milk' everything now. The way Mars (or Masterfoods or whatever) do it is best. They don't even put Mars on their other confectionary. Cadbury always want to rely on their name. And men never went to the Moon.

>Yeah, despite this topic being boring as fuck

That's a bit rude. I found it quite interesting, even if you didn't.

3 facts:
Un-interesting but true, My mother used to be a nanny to the cadbury family in Bournville untill she was called into war service (munitions). The err outbreak started just a couple of miles up the road from where I'm sat now. I actually prefer Galaxy.
It's good to share....

It barely needs to be said, but I think we're all aware that Dairy milk with Bubbles is vastly inferior to Wispa, in alll of taste, texture and moniker.

Desert Allsorts are OFFICIALLY quite nice. Party Babies less so.

> It barely needs to be said, but I think we're all aware that Dairy milk with Bubbles is vastly inferior to Wispa, in alll of taste, texture and moniker.

Too true! And Wispa Gold...pure joy.

Yeah, Wispa is one they should have kept separate. It doesn't work well with the shape of the Dairy Milk brand. Caramel I can kind of accept although there was something nicer about the previous segments of that, too.

Others they'd be stupid to not keep separate:
1) Flake

Do you think that Cadbury are planning to withdraw their Fry's Turkish Delight if the Dairy Milk one goes well or is the former too timeless for that? I've not tasted the Dairy Milk version (I don't much like the Fry's one) - how do they compare?

1) Flake *

* This obviously has its own brand power as Cadbury's released loads of variations a while ago. "Snow" was crap, and something tells me the "Dipped" normal one is going to see off Twirl. They can sell one Twirl finger for the price of two when they dress them up as Dipped Flakes.

Dipped flakes are slightly different from Twirls, to be fair. Larger than a single finger, and of a different texture. I think there's room for both.

I'm more concerned with how Cadbury removed "Mint Crisp" (along with most of their premium range) and replaced with with the frankly dire "Dairy Milk with Mint Chips" - I did find out through a dodgy newsagent selling import chocolate on the cheap, though, that the original mint crisp is alive and well in Ireland, so I've at least got one place to keep myself topped up until Cadbury realise what a horrible mistake they've made.

I'm just waitiing for the day we reach the point of maximum brand-consolidation ridiculousness and Bourneville gets changed to "Dairy Milk without Milk"

In Brixton recently there was a shop with some kind of old-fashioned looking Dairy Milks that had names like "tiffin". I didn't try them. They had a whole range but they don't stock any of them any more.

I thought I'd been privvy to a limited edition "Goodnight Sweetheart" portal until I checked and found this:
http://www.snackspot.org.uk/thread.php?story=0412221405sbc

Yeah, that's the same line as the old-style Mint Crisps are available in. The newsagent I go to has the full range, in fact. Cranberry Crunch is definitely the oddest of those available.

Are the DM Caramellos different to the one with caramel we're used to?

Oh, another one I miss: "Nuts about Caramel". Stupidest name ever though.

Green and Blacks are the best range available, but I'm gutted that since being taken over by Cadbury's the fairtrade logos have disappeared from them. Maya Gold is the only one that's still fairtrade.

"Do you think that Cadbury are planning to withdraw their Fry's Turkish Delight if the Dairy Milk one goes well or is the former too timeless for that? I've not tasted the Dairy Milk version (I don't much like the Fry's one) - how do they compare?"

I talked to the Cadbury rep about this when I worked at makro - they're not getting rid of Fry's.

I prefer the Fry's version personally, but if you want a higher chocolate/turkish ratio, go for the Dairy Milk Turkish.

"Snow" was crap, and something tells me the "Dipped" normal one is going to see off Twirl. They can sell one Twirl finger for the price of two when they dress them up as Dipped Flakes.

They still sell Snow, actually. As for Dipped - I thought *exactly* the same - that they'd just get rid of Twirl. Mainly because Dipped is far nicer. But Twirl actually sells *really* well - it was one of the top-selling Cadbury bars at makro. Dipped sells pathetically by comparison. Stupid really, as Dipped is far, far nicer.

I'm more concerned with how Cadbury removed "Mint Crisp" (along with most of their premium range) and replaced with with the frankly dire "Dairy Milk with Mint Chips"

There is a reason for this - at the same time, they released Dairy Milk Crispies, and they didn't want confusion over the name. I agree Dairy Milk Mint Crisp is better name, though. Irritatingly, they've got rid of Dairy Milk Crispies now (I *adored* it, but it just wasn't selling), so the name change was pointless in the end - they won't change it back now, though.

I did find out through a dodgy newsagent selling import chocolate on the cheap, though, that the original mint crisp is alive and well in Ireland, so I've at least got one place to keep myself topped up until Cadbury realise what a horrible mistake they've made.

Indeed - I had some in Ireland, and they also sell them in a dodgy newsagents in London I went to recently. Lovely stuff.

Oh, and I'm entirely agreed about Wispa. A dumb change.

"Desert Allsorts are OFFICIALLY quite nice. Party Babies less so.

When I opened the Dessert Allsorts bag, THE STENCH OF DEATH emanated from it. Some of them are quite nice though, although I wouldn't buy it again. Ironically considering my post, it's commendable that Cadbury tried something different - those flavours have never been done before.

Twirls sell well because they're good. I'm sure if sales of the Fry's Turkish Delight dropped they'd axe it. I doubt they give a crap about the nostalgia.

I'm sure if sales of the Fry's Turkish Delight dropped they'd axe it. I doubt they give a crap about the nostalgia.

Oh, absolutely. All I meant was that there are no plans at the moment.

I've been thinking about the Fry's v Dairy Milk Turkish question, and I've reached the conclusion that Cadbury would be nuts to axe the former, whether the latter is more popular or not...

"I doubt they give a crap about the nostalgia."

I think the Dairy Milk brand shows a very keen awareness of their heritage, and if you check Cadbury's website you'll see that they view Fry's to be an important part of the history of chocolate in general, and they seem proud to own it. It puts them in the fortunate position of having a product that transcends Cadbury's as well - a lot of people will consider Fry's Turkish (with its seemingly unchanging packaging) as being the original Turkish Delight and not related to Cadbury at all. The sales of Dairy Milk Turkish Delight might overtake those of Fry's Turkish (I'd be surprised mind you), but axing the Fry's brand would take away the apparent original that all the others are imitating. Then when Nestle and Mars release their Turkish varients there'd be nothing making the Dairy Milk one win out.

> I'm just waitiing for the day we reach the point of maximum brand-consolidation ridiculousness and Bourneville gets changed to "Dairy Milk without Milk"

Ha. I'm similarly observing the expansion of the Kellogg's Crunchy Nut Cornflakes brand and wondering how long it'll be before Frosties are absorbed and marketed as "Crunchy Nut Cornflakes without Nuts".

I'm still lamenting the end of my childhood favourite - Cadbury's Cookies and Cream. White chocolate and biscuit bits? Yes please. In comparison, there Dream white chocolate is shambolic. I sill remember buying the last box of the bars at my local newsagents when they were flogging them near the end of their shelf life...

i like cadbury. especially dream and boost bars. best ever

why is everyone so into critisizing these brands? if u dont like them, dont buy them, simple.

" I'm still lamenting the end of my childhood favourite - Cadbury's Cookies and Cream. "

do milky bars make something like that? i thought they did?

" they'd axe it. "

whats that mean? stop making it? or change it?

I believe that there's some kind of Milky Bar/Smarties hybrid bar that fills the same niche for me, which you may be thinking of, , assuming that is your name (gasp). Still not as nice, as far as my memories are concerned.

As for criticising, isn't that what noise to signal -does-?